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Transcript of George Webb Video Series Part 217 "Hillary's Leakers, Hackers, and Henchmen" [@Georgwebb / #HRCRatlne]

  • Day 41.2 Russian Group K Container Missile System - Gulftainer Partner - YouTube
    • This is Day 41 this is part two and this is a club K Club K container
    • And it is good for firing missiles
    • These stand up missiles here can just be lifted and hoisted and then fired
    • And this is the company that deals with Gulftainer
    • This is the Russian company a Russian company makes this club K missile system that goes in a normal container, and it is a joint venture
    • I did not realize this until this morning, but Dick Morris had an alert out where he said, "club K was a part of this deal"
    • I said it would be arms in one direction and I said it would be drugs coming in the other
    • Drugs coming in two different ports, the arms are going to be going out other ports
    • I think the arms are actually going to be going out Port Canaveral important Port of Tampa
    • But here is the arms piece of the deal
    • If you're a let's say your Nigerian Minister security of Minister or whatever Defense Minister, you just put these all around your port, and it hidden in plain sight and you're ready to go at any time
    • Civil insurrection or whatever
    • And if you are in power in in a Middle Eastern country where there's a population that may become Restless at any point, Yemen or wherever, this is an easy way if you're a General Grange or someone like that to get arms there for cruise missile capability in containers
    • Hidden within hundreds of other containers and I'll just play the animation here so that you can see the club K system
    • Now Bill Clinton got five million dollars when this Gulftainer deal was done
    • And the Gulf teener deal was negotiated by not only Jack Lew, but also by Rahm Emanuel [Music]
    • {{ war sales commercial }}
    • So all these are sort of Alden things needed for an invasion like a Zero Footprint in Libya or a Timber Sycamore command centers a Timber Sycamore in Syria or Timber Tupelo and Turkey
    • So I think you get the idea that this is if you were organizing an Isis support mechanism for ships, trains, trucks, of course Otaiba owns a trucking line, but let's not forget that--our UAE ambassador
    • This is the kind of animation I want to do for the Awans going into the Rayburn office building
    • So I'm gonna just leave it right there for right
    • Now and then go to some comments speaking of the Awans,
    • And the comment I always like the most challenging comments, because they're the ones that really stimulate critical thinking
    • There's a comment about special toner that I want to get back to
    • But here's a good comment, "George what you're saying is the article they stole a computer system to create an alternate software platform"
    • If you don't remember the articles the New York Times talking about this DHS hack of the inspector-general
    • And it turns out that--the employees are trying to create a new system for the inspector general
    • Wouldn't that be great, if you had all different 30 inspector generals on your system with a Palantir-PROMIS backdoor--wouldn't that be great if that was written by the Awans
    • So again, it just points more to the Awans to me this comment
    • But he's saying, "well--if they just picked up government equipment how can you be so sure like there there was no charges filed? It seems like a slap on the wrist. It doesn't really seem that big of deal. Andre just gave some BlackBerry's over to a government agency. It came out to his rented home a few phone calls. How is that such a big deal?"
    • Well that's not--three different Intelligence agencies came out
    • The NCIS came out to Andre Taggart's home
    • Also the FBI came out multiple times
    • As well as finally was relegated to the Capitol police after an investigation
    • I think you're also going to find that Department of Homeland Security is involved--it just was suppressed
    • We don't know that yet
    • But what we really do need to know is what is the name of the system?
    • What is the name of the system that was hacked?
    • I think it's gonna be the same system that Theresa Grafenstine uses
    • I'm gonna of course ask that interrogatories what is the type of system do you use
    • And I'm gonna also in my DHS lawsuit ask what type of system do you use
    • That's not proprietary information
    • We should know that
    • We should know who contracted was it Brillient that what wrote that system
    • We don't know the case management system that's a real key question
    • So this is the type of thing where you get a challenging question which is great
    • It causes more critical thinking it causes you to dive deeper which I which I love
    • The next one is by the toner--people saying the special toner--what Taggart mentioned a special toner
    • And then Byegone mentions here--here's the policy for toner cartridges with memory chips
    • Now what I had said about the special toner is there is a way with this ultraviolet printing that you can print hidden or--for you for a confidential eyes only type of print on a regular page
    • {{ 911: Bitcoin Paper Wallet --- QR Codes }}
    • So most of the page regular people can see but then there's signatures...the things would normally be redacted that you can you can bring out with with this ultraviolet paper
    • So that's why I said the special toner was used and you saw me produce a package of that ultraviolet from and I'm not sure what that is but by God mentions an interesting thing about the toner cartridges maybe having memory chips, which means that they could be--loading these pages that are being printed and then you could just hack the toner
    • You could just see what people are printing
    • That's just the simplest hack of all time and then just--and then just basically send the printed pages if they were about the one two three agreement
    • For instance usually people print things out before they go to the committee meetings
    • They print it out before the committee meeting they think it's being printed securely but it's being memorized to a printer
    • Now if you were really clever about this, you would delete lunch menus and things like that that we're bringing printed
    • And just store on those printed pages just the one two three type documents
    • Again, if I hadn't seen Raj Fernando on the International Security Advisory Board, if I hadn't seen Rahm Emanuel being involved so closely with the Gulftainer deal and all the UAE deals, and so closely involved in Imran's case
    • ...The memory, the Russian missiles going one way, the Hawala going the other way, it wouldn't be such a concern to me
    • But because you have all those things now this type of thing becomes a very significant a significant risk
    • And Byegone brings up a great point here--that that actually is something I don't know the answer to we need to find out
  • Day 41.3. Did Rep Steve King Say Something in 2007? Three Tresure Troves in Imran’s Backpack - YouTube
    • This is Day 41 part three behind me steve king steve king everybody knows steve king
    • Steve King is the representative in Iowa with Ames, Iowa I think it's Iowa one I want to say Iowa one
    • I believe in 2007 in the Foreign Relations Committee, he said the the Awans are a spy ring that are reading all of our mail
    • I haven't had anybody checked that yet
    • That's gonna be really important because if he's sounding the alarm if he's sounding the alarm in 2007 saying hey these the Awans are reading all of our mail
    • Who knows maybe you knew about the chip and the toner?
    • And they're they're also getting all the people that print stuff to printers Republicans and Democrats right not just what's on the caucus server but what's in the printer toner cartridge memory who knows
    • But if he's saying that 2007 and here we are 10 years later with the same spy ring in Congress--that seems odd
    • It seems like even during this period from February 2nd when the Luke Rosiak's article first broke, you would think he would step up and say, "hey wait a minute I remember these guys--I said something about this ten years ago"
    • I said something--if you see something you say something I said something
    • So I think it's in the Foreign Relations Committee I think it's Steve King I think it's the Awans I think he's saying, "Hey the Awans are looking at our email"
    • I don't think he knew about the printer memory
    • But I'm here today at the Supreme Court yesterday they heard carpenter carpenter versus the United States
    • This is the cell phone case of course they put up a criminal to defend it instead of a journalist who's challenging it
    • But this is one where if we say the cell phones when they started out 20 years ago couldn't do geolocation very well at all
    • They were basically to/from metadata
    • Now they've turned it now you can get into the phone you've got all your apps your people are saying fertility apps and all your goober and your banking and everything they can get everything just by getting in your phone now your phone is your life now
    • So that's what's at stake here digital privacy for the next--maybe 50 years
    • So it's a big case it is--there it is right over the border the Dred Scott border
    • Only this is the Dredd digital frontier it's right there right there
    • We're all Dred Scott now so we got to play this one right
    • So I haven't read the oral arguments yesterday I think the oral arguments get posted a little like a day later after the clerk's mark them up
    • And then the judges they really go into this kind of annotation phase, where they'll just ask a few questions and mainly just gather information gather the arguments, clarify the arguments of the attorneys, but they're not going to issue any opinions on that yet
    • But it should be interesting just to see what the oral arguments where
    • I haven't had time I did 19 videos for something like that yesterday
    • But that's going to be really interesting and the other thing that's going to be very interesting as the DHS hack
    • The DHS hack at I think it's going to be at that hack is that Hawkshead
    • It's the DHS hacks at Hawkshead
    • I think it's a DHS hacks at Hawkshead
    • The Hawkshead home in Lorton Virginia is I think where the raid was was where the DS DHS IG was
    • Why do I say that? There's I believe a friendship between Theresa Grafenstine and the inspector general--a long friendship between the Awans and Theresa Grafenstine
    • So that's obviously she knows what Nancy Pelosi: she appointed her okay
    • So I think there's a relationship there
    • And the fact that another Inspector General one of the DynCorp 30 backbone
    • Remember, Imran is playing video games with the one two three email with Andre Carson
    • He's playing video games with that person--DHS, okay?
    • So DHS is hacked
    • Who else got raided, who else got raided by DHS and 2 Intelligence agencies in early spring?
    • My initial working theory is Hina all of he pulls her kids out of school and goes to Pakistan in a rush with ten thousand dollars in cash
    • That's because something just happened
    • That's I think maze I want to say May third week of May are March third week of March
    • So I'm gonna say that the raid at the Hawkshead home happened maybe a day or two before that
    • And the reason why Imran comes over here to Imre to the building over here is to erase everything and make a backup so he could take the operation to Pakistan
    • I think the operation stays in Pakistan until July the 27th until he gets back here
    • When he he he's gonna believe and go again, with another set of disk drives and he gets arrested
    • We still don't know what was in his backpack at the airport--we don't know the contents of the backpack at the airport
    • We know the contents of the backpack on the April raid
    • I believe it one I found was the March raid the March DHS raid
    • We don't know the contents of the April raid
    • And we don't know the contents of Imran's backpack at the airport
    • Those are going to be key things for discovery as we roll forward
    • The backpack is really a triad
    • There's really three troves I got close to one of them with a witness of one of them
    • But there's going to be two other troves the capital police trove and then also the TSA trove out of the Dulles Airport
  • Day 41.4. Barrasso and Uranium One, Plot Thickens - YouTube
    • Day 41 the Senate is currently debating the tax bill
    • It looks like they're hopeful they may have something to take home for Christmas for their constituents
    • We don't really know the answer to that yet
    • You see a little bit of hedging going on Senator Barrasso from Wyoming was here a minute ago and he was talking about--consideration
    • And whenever I hear that word I think oh this means that they're not gonna they're not gonna vote for probably table it and look at it a little bit longer
    • I don't know if the constituents will be very happy with that given Congress's performance this year
    • It does look like this Uranium One thing is more than just a democratic issue
    • And more than just a Republican issue
    • It really cuts across both the Senate and House both parties
    • So it'll be interesting to see with brass those interests in Uranium One in and Wyoming and some of the other Senators and Congressmen and in with interests and other western states
    • Be interesting to see how this all shakes out
    • So we'll be here for the rest of the day or parts of the day for the Senate update vote
    • We'll also be interviewing other folks along the way on the Uranium One story
  • Day 41.5. Judge Chutkan Hears ACLU vs Mattis Habeas Corpus Case - YouTube
    • Day 41-year judicial report
    • You can see that there's a few press here waiting for potentially Michael Flynn
    • There's rumors swirling that Michael Flynn may show up in court today as well as other people such as maybe Carter Page or other people that were involved in the Mueller investigation
    • I was researching the Larry Clayman case
    • I had heard that he had filed on Mueller--turned out that it was an older case
    • But I saw a couple of cases between Larry Clayman and Judicial Watch one from 2006 one from this year 2017
    • Basically, the claim is still the same: Larry says I started the company from a volunteer office to a 28 million dollar operation in 2008, and Tom Fitton said--he was in the severance agreement--to bring somebody else in, and he still controls Judicial Watch 11 years later--Was interesting some of the stuff you find
    • I did look at all my cases for updates didn't really see any
    • There was an interesting ACLU case which is ACLU versus Mattis, being a secretary defense
    • He currently has a person that's been in held since mid-september in Iraq it was a U.S. combatant, supposedly fighting for Isis in Syria, that was turned over to the Secretary of Defense
    • And he's been held without writ of habeas corpus
    • The ACLU has requested that and they have not received it, which is unusual
    • Two months in that you don't have it right to an attorney right to defend yourself right to representation this is an interesting case because this normally when you hold on to a person this long, they have something, they have something in terms of Intelligence or there's got to be an Intelligence value to why they would be holding somebody over two and a half months without a writ of habeas corpus
    • Of course the last person that I remember being accused of suspending the writ of habeas corpus was Lincoln or ignoring it anyway in Maryland, when he took over the legislature in Maryland
    • But I was informed by the attorney that no it happened in World War two, during the out right after Pearl Harbor and it happened in right around the time after the Civil War briefly very briefly after the Civil War during occupation
    • {{ 911: not to make you wrong, George, but George W Bush did it also, couple of years after 9/11, so he could torture some folks }}
  • Day 41.6 Motion To Compel The Production of Public Documents. - YouTube
    • It's day 41 this is part six and sent it still talking away and Barrasso says they're gonna pass it by tonight
    • So we'll see
    • Motion to compel motion to compel motion to compel
    • Judicial economy
    • What I would love is just on this one comments about motion to compel just copy and paste all the motions to compel for the production of public documents
    • If I'm going to go ahead and give three weeks for all the respondents to respond again, after they've had kind of a year and a half plus they've also had a chance for a month and a half with their or two months and a half with their criminal case, I would like to just in the interest of judicial economy, get as much of the public documents as possible
    • So I want to file a motion to compel for public documents
    • Especially Fairfax County
    • Get all the unlawful unlawful imprisonment the full report
    • Get all the the beatings with no reductions on the street numbers...
    • Get all the police reports get the capital police reports for the night of the backpack incidents
    • So I've got a good I gotta use my prop the backpack
    • The backpack is April 6 the Capitol Police say they find it in April 6
    • Now Zero Hedge says, "well it was lost actually in late March or sometime in the spring and then the Capitol Police finally found at April 6"
    • No no no that's not how the Capitol Police work there they sweep every night they would find it I've been to the phone booth they would find it
    • So I think what happened is if he know I'll be left on March 6th and pulled her kids out, it's much more likely that that's the night the bag was intercepted
    • She grabbed her kids she went to the airport
    • Imran went to the Navy Yard to wait it out to see if he's going to get arrested or not
    • That would dive more with Andre Taggart's story of about a month before, and then moving out
    • I'm much more inclined now to think March 6 was the real date, the night that Hina goes to the airport is the same night they find a bag
    • Who in their right mind, if there's a theft and an Eagle break in to a network of the Congress would hang around?
    • Well I'll just hang around no I don't think so!
    • I think there is no reason to leave the country and pull your kids out of school unless something like that happens
    • So and she leaves--Hina Alvi leaves I believe on March 6th
    • And supposedly the night of the bag incident and on the on Capitol Hill over in Rayburn happens on April 6th
    • I wonder if they didn't just move it a month apart to just shard it and confuse everyone
    • It's much more likely that those two events would would be in sync
    • "Hey they found a bag, which has a hard drive, which has a laptop, which has a notebook incriminating you...let's get out of town": that makes much more sense to me
    • So fill this comments with motions to compel
    • I want to compel, especially those three police reports, the TSA reports at the airport for both when Imran left, and also Hina left as well
    • And then all the imprisonments and all the violent crime if there is any violent crime as well as all the tickets as well
    • I don't think the tickets are redacted
    • So that's not a problem but it's really those three beatings that I'd like to motion to compel with real dates, real police reports
    • It shouldn't be eyedropper through one person Pat Sowers or someone like that an intermediary with the Fairfax County Police police to one reporter which is Luke
    • Over a series of six months
    • These should be public documents available to all reporters and let people build their case from there
  • Day 41.7 Editing Videos 54-66, Taking Out Summaries - YouTube
    • This is Day 41.7 and I've been going through my old videos
    • And this is because we're coming up on day 54 from last year
    • And what I decided to do was start at day 54
    • I deleted 53 because 54 is really a good good one to start on
    • And the if you go through the video it really does a good job of kind of laying the foundation for you to watch the rest of the series
    • And it's got just a lot of these storyboard slides that have a lot of impact
    • And for people who haven't read Clinton Cash
    • Or people who haven't--spent a lot of time doing a lot of research, it kind of gets everybody on the same level
    • So I didn't edit this video
    • What I did was I because back when I did this series originally, and I just give me a couple ideas of some of these more summary slides
    • What I the thing I was so surprised with is how accurate everything is
    • And how relevant everything is till today
    • That's the one surprise
    • I was saying the FBI it was a spy ring way back then
    • And they were sort of funding Fusion GPS...and and at that time I remember how that was just an unheard of accusation
    • And now how with all the Fusion GPS and the FBI funding Fusion GPS and funding Christopher Steel and funding the Russian spies to come in and live in Maryland to do wiretaps and all the support McCabe has given the Awans
    • And that that relationship will continue to develop over time
    • What I didn't know--so that's the thing that I was very pleased with, I guess
    • Not this all the steps one two three four five here in the topple of Libya, Syria, Turkey was well known and well documented
    • This is Clinton cash had done a good job of it
    • What wasn't known at that time was the FBI's involvement
    • And this is a charge I had made from the first day in the series
    • But this the thing that after doing the Benghazi trial
    • And then I'm gonna point over here
    • I didn't realize how involved the FBI was in the planning of that
    • How many agents were actually there how many agents were actually involved in the cover-up of
    • Or I wouldn't say cover-up but just try to make it look like a bunch of cab drivers--all got together one night and did this thing
    • That's not what happened--it was an orchestrated FBI and CIA working together
    • I thought it was mainly CIA because of Petraeus, but what I've learned is in looking at all the people at the trial: they're all FBI people
    • So I think CIA was mostly involved in the planning but the follow up
    • The FBI was definitely there and that's the piece that I that I really didn't have
    • On subsequent videos what I did was since I was summarizing on a daily basis, what I did was kind of chop off the first three minutes or whatever two minutes of the summary
    • So that you could go right to the new thing every day I would add a new new slide about this second slide that was the idea I would do a quick summary and add a second slide
    • So what I did here is just jump to the second slide
    • So I'm taking about three minutes off of those I'll go back
    • Again, and do a flash-forward, but I just want to let everybody know I'll delete a video here and there and then combined in order to make this more of a series that you could just watch from beginning to end
    • And eventually as we keep kind of editing down it'll get more and more condensed into almost one movie at that to see at some point
    • That's all for right now and have a good day everyone
  • Day 42 - STX = Sports Transport Logistics? Does Business With Awan Sports in Sialkot? - YouTube
    • It's Day 42 and I have been in the process of going through a year ago videos
    • And I was surprised over and over again, of how early I had said Andrew McCabe was running a spy ring for Hillary Clinton
    • Mainly created out of a set of reprisals against people who voted for Bill Clinton's impeachment
    • But that degree has grown over the last 20 years into a larger and larger group of reprisals
    • Until recently now, we're seeing all these smears coming out against all these different Congressmen and Senators and news news personalities...for asking tough debate questions
    • So again, this is what I mean where the baby octopus doesn't get any better
    • The cancer doesn't get any better by waiting another 20 years
    • It just gets worse and what I didn't know at that time was that the Awans were recruited
    • They were brought into the United States through this inter-America program
    • The wink is "enter America"--it was a combined move with the CIA through this presidential decision directive 62, basically bringing in these teams, like you would a high school class, like you were to recruit basketball players or softball players or soccer players or cricket players
    • They're brought in in about 1998
    • Now the reason why I think they're brought in is for this thing called the National Nuclear Security Administration
    • The NNSA is created in 1999 to manage nuclear proliferation
    • It also manages Navy fuel the Navy nuclear propulsion program NNPP
    • Not the PP (peepee dossier), this is the NNPP the Navy nuclear propulsion program
    • Now does that sound familiar? Navy propulsion Navy nuclear movement of nuclear materials
    • And now also there's gonna be this company that transport logistics the company that does that movement of nuclear materials for this one two three agreement is also going to have a sports company
    • Now does STX mean sports transportation logistics sometimes an X is used in the business before a shorthand for logistics
    • So does STX equal sports transportation logistics?
    • Well it turns out that transport logistics does start a sports company, and it's started by this guy called for uh no (FORANO?)
    • Now it turns out STX sports does have a relationship with Awan sports in Pakistan
    • And these kids make soccer balls in Sialkot that northern area that northern drug area of Pakistan
    • So we're gonna look more into that but in order to administrate this one two three agreement the FBI gets involved in this
    • This was normally done wasn't done by a civilian agency before it was done by the CIA
    • So David Petraeus works with Andrew McCab,e and Mueller, Comey, McCabe etc
    • That's why they're at the center of this thing that starts in 1999 which is gonna be Uranium One
    • Now she remember it sailed through Uranium One sailed through in 2010
    • But actually it goes back through the Cepheus CFIUS process but actually goes back all the way to nineteen ninety nine
    • And if the scipiosCFIUS if you remember is uh is kind of intercepting
    • The first thing that this spy group does in 1999 is it starts intercepting the CFIUS investment proposals for people coming in investing in United States
    • And what I am saying is those get those get intercepted and get let out two other groups that will give us bribes and political favors
    • The next step and the two in the process is getting them an EB-5 visa get them into the United States
    • Three is to compromise them with either--give them the nice cars show them the nice girls
    • Jeff will help with that Jeff Epstein will help with that
    • And in the process will film them and low light cameras so that they'll always be compromised
    • So they'll basically become our agents for for the rest of time
    • Now I ask you if if Imran Awan didn't have state sponsorship, how would he be able to get away with twenty burglaries in Congress
    • How would he be able to have a secret server with be able to remove the hard drives...
    • Just doesn't stand a reason that he would be just charged with one originally he was just charged with one $123,000 bank fraud movement
    • Well the reason is we I went to this house and talked to Andre Taggart and found these hard drives
    • And that kicked over another investigation another FBI raid that occurred
    • This house and I believe it's gonna be the DHS OPM raid
    • And these are they're gonna be the hard drives and Blackberries and also government laptops I think it's gonna be four and twenty as I said before I think it's still gonna be four and twenty but whatever it is we're gonna find out
    • Again, if they didn't have spent state censorship how would they get 5100 legal legal logins
    • How did they be able to get away with having government equipment could not might not just be government from the Congress may also be CENTCOM may also be State Department
    • How else would they have the hundreds of suspicious activity reports and transfers
    • How else would they have one hundred and fifty doped iPhones
    • All these things would get you put away in jail for quite a long time if you were just a regular guy
    • As I mentioned hard drives are being made here there's lots of physical evidence I believe the toner is the cover to come in and out of these different government buildings
    • I think it's gonna be thirty different government buildings including the Penn Federal Credit Union maybe Federal Credit Union especially
    • There's gonna be three sets of evidence from backpacks
    • One Inauguration burglaries
    • Two the April sixth burglaries or whatever we get that
    • and then finally when Imran Awan leaves on the 27th
    • I think there's also going to be backpacks with the information
    • So we need all those from TSA from the Capitol Police and the Fairfax County
    • We need to get all those and I would like to probably do a motion to compel for those right now, if somebody has any advice on that
    • Again, we've done a lot of due diligence about what we're looking for, so the discovery is going to be precision
    • Here's Kwasi Mensa for instance
    • We're gonna want to see his personnel records
    • And then there's a lot of cases--we can't seem to find currently right now
    • I don't know how these would get expunged if you didn't have friends in high places
    • This case right here is for unlawful imprisonment
    • How many people--that have gotten away with unlawful imprisonment without any kind of sentence at all?
    • So there's the case number there here's the beating
    • And unlawful imprisonment over at the the Springfield Road drive the 6324 Thomas address
    • Again, you see here that the incident number has been blacked out
    • You'd have to have friends at Fairfax County
    • I'm not saying Freitag low light cameras
    • But you'd have to have somebody that you knew like Freitag
    • The beatings we have the beatings at Lachine the beatings over here at Manitoba
    • I'm not saying that this is the place where the girls are being held against their will
    • And this is the gang clubhouse, but boy it sure looks like it
    • Then of course we have Tagawa out there with the car parts in Eastern Maryland
    • Here is the case number there
    • We need to see these cases to see actually who filed these cases...
    • If they're expunged it shows that you've got friends in high places
    • Again, with a different civil suits
    • There's one two three four civil suits here
    • Again, how do you get away with this?
    • How do these get expunged, if you don't have friends in high places?
    • You'll notice an R&H trucking here like very much like an R&L trucking
    • R&H motorcars a lot of time if you're gonna do any illegal trucking operation, you'll steal the cars, and those become the cars
    • Then when you gradually start making money you buy trucks to get bigger trucks to get rid of the cars
    • So that's kind of a way of bootstrapping yourself in the trucking business
    • And then of course then we'll start with the interrogatories and start asking questions
    • Anthony do you know Imran?
    • Imran do you know Anthony?
    • Huma do you know Imran, etc
    • That's coming
    • And then of course these cases here which are 1 2 3 4 be Abid Awan cases
    • We like to see those against all these banks
    • These are credit and then of course all these hospitals Alexandria Hospital Alexander Hospital interval hospital
    • And then this Dulles Greene case here which is the involves imprisonment
    • Also need to see the credit union report from Kalyn
    • And we need to also see the detail amount of transfers from the suspicious activity reports
    • And again, we need to start looking into this STX and Awan sports and these shipments by Awan sports and soccer balls into the United States
    • And see if STX is picking them up
    • If Mark Lambert of STX sports transport logistics is picking these soccer balls out from Awan sports, I say that there's a connection between Imran Awan and
    • --Again, his dad owns the end controls or did control this contested area up in the Kashmir area and Sialkot was where the rice farm was
    • Remember we have bills of lading of Imran taking basmati rice orders in Baltimore
    • Baltimore is where Johns Hopkins is by the testimony of the Defendents that's where they said he went to school that's where Mark Lambert and that's where the trucking company is near the NSA and Fort Meade
    • So it's everything's kind of a concentration out there
    • The distillery is out there in Frederick Maryland
    • There's lots of stuff going on and trucking going to Bethesda near the Walter Reed Army Navy hospital
    • A lot of stuff's coming from the nuclear facilities and the enrichment uranium facilities from Paducah to Bethesda
    • Is that medical isotopes? We don't know. We just need to look more into this stuff
    • We have kind of a smoking gun
    • But here--it's what I'm talking about--the twenty four thousand boxes
    • Looks an awful lot like a ratline being shut down, and car parts being sent to to another country
    • You can see all these shipments by the Awan brothers here in the last--time while they were waiting to do trial
    • And then the car companies...
    • We have lots of documentary evidence that we need to look into
  • Day 42.2. Mike Flynn - Don’t Sign Pleas Deal - YouTube
    • The Flynn announcement is out
    • I mentioned that yesterday and of course it happened today
    • I didn't expect it this morning though we're heading down to 333 con right now 333 Constitution
    • There's word that he's there already these giving up his phone
    • There may be an agreement talk to Robyn Gritz this morning
    • I've talked to other people that are in communication with him
    • We urge Mike Flynn if he hasn't already agreed to a guilty plea to please consider an innocent plea
    • I even if they threaten your son whatever
    • The circumstances are if this is the McCade behind the curtains meeting if this is the famous McCabe hiding behind the curtains and then doing one of those little hey walk up ambushes
    • Just any well--I heard you had that meeting--with the Russian ambassador how that go?
    • Do not! That is entrapment!
    • Do not sign any agreements we urge you not to do that
    • McCabe we can prove an ulterior motive with Robyn Gritz with other professionals inside the FBI with reprisals
    • Please do not sign a guilty plea
  • Day 42.3. Flynn Takes Plea Deal - YouTube
    • NO Autocaptions
    • Michael Flynn Plead guilty on a 10 page plea agreement
    • Read his rights by Judge Contreras
    • Believe he'll be released at DC Courthouse
    • We believe McCabe threatened his son with Prosecution
    • We'll see if that's true or not. I doubt he'll be able to talk because of rule 37b in the federal procedures but we'll see if he'll answer that question
    • Many people at the last sec have plans of pleading not guilty but in the last moments they are threatened and they break and they sign a plea agreement.
    • That seemed to be the demeanor of Mike Flynn in the courtroom
    • {{ 911: "Lock him up" sign held by deluded alt-leftist in the back. People don't understand this situation, do they? }}
  • Day 42.4. Did McCabe Threaten Your Son? - YouTube
    • NO Captions
    • DC District court, waiting for Mike FLynn
    • {{ 911: Mike Flynn exits courthouse under protective guard and enters a vehicle and leaves. Dozens of people shout "Lock him Up, Lock him up". George goes another way with that... }}
    • G: Did Mccabe threaten your son? Did McCabe threaten your son? Did Mccabe threaten your son? Did McCabe threaten your son?
    • {{ Flynn drives away. Video ends. }}
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Prismed innocent until proven guilty: How I live with NSA Prism

A couple people have asked me details regarding some security tools I use. I figured I'd make a post for people who might be interested. It outlines some technical approaches and tradeoffs I make to retain some semblance of privacy in this modern Internet Age.
Our current administration has made it abundantly clear they could care less about the constitutionality of the Intel community's collection methods. For those who have been living in a cave (and ironically would then have nothing to fear from this), the NSA Prism program in cooperation with the FBI gives the government basically unfettered access to private information you have stored at many of America's major tech players.
The full extent of these programs is slowly being revealed, and the FISA court seems perfectly willing to allow ongoing telecommunication surveillance on American citizens who have done nothing wrong. They collect and store your information in bulk, but hold back on analyzing it. Once they go through the arduous process of legally gaining permission to investigate you, they can retroactively analyze what they have collected. It's a major loophole, but it works.
What's worse is many of the tech giants (Google, Apple, Verizon) have been playing ball silently since 2009, only pretending to care when a national PR embarrassment is thrown in their lap.
So to the point, I've been slowly removing my dependency on Google and other Prism choke points.
There's a great site I discovered from Hacker News: Prism Break. It outlines many solid alternatives for web services and computing tools that are unlikely to cooperate with Prism for a long time (if ever). As with most software, there are trade offs between the ease of use in mature commercial products and their privacy guarantees.
This post is about some of the recent changes I've made with respect to Prism-Break and my own research on Hacker News, Reddit, and general insider knowledge gained from working with smart technical people over the years. You'll notice a recurring theme of evaluating ease of use with security, and many of my decisions actually err on the side of usage, despite the tone of this post.
Web Browser:
I recently switched from Google Chrome back to Firefox. I always liked Chrome because of how quickly it rendered pages, particularly Javascript heavy pages, and made tab management easier. The web developer toolbox is second to none. Although I must admit, Mozilla Firefox has stayed very competitive with them. There is a negligible performance drop off, but it's barely noticeable and nothing significant. You can't really trust Chrome unfortunately, even with aggressive privacy settings (no analytics, etc.) . Firefox is not as malware/exploit bulletproof as Chrome, but it is close, and the open source nature makes it a very attractive alternative. I NEVER save passwords through the browser and always tell it never to ask. Both Chrome and Firefox are well know for storing passwords in plain text.
Web Browser Add-ons:
Not exactly a browser add-on, but it does help with security.
I pay $80/year for an OpenVPN subscription to Mullvad, which I discovered reading a comment thread on Reddit. They are based in Sweden and retain absolutely no information about you. They could give a fuck.
The OpenVPN standard encrypts all outbound communication from the originating device using layer 2 SSL. Traffic appears as normal HTTPS. This is different than other VPN technologies that use with IPSEC, the presence of which is easy to detect and thus limits any plausible deniability. It's also different than a simple web proxy that does not necessarily offer encryption to prevent ISP monitoring/throttling, and often only handles HTTP or SOCKS traffic, which is often slower. Mullvad is fast enough that I've just gotten in the habit of leaving it running at all times. Plus it never get old having sites show me geo-aware ads in Swedish.
The trade off is it's a bit more expensive than many of the web proxy providers. However, there are certain fringe benefits to having completely anonymous web traffic. Don't hate the player hate the game.
The fact that traffic is difficult to distinguish between secure web browsing and OpenVPN has made it an attractive countermeasure to the great firewall of China and other censorship technologies. There is a constant leap-frogging battle between those governments and OpenVPN vendors like Mullvad. It's reminiscent of the old PC gaming piracy protection vs. CD burning wars before everyone started using Steam.
Web Search:
I have configured Firefox to use StartPage as my default Search engine. They have a similar don't-give-a-fuck privacy policy to Mullvad (they're in the NE), and route all your searches anonymously through Google. It's not 100% equivalent to US Google, but it has not let me down yet. It's about 95% equivalent from my weeks testing it. There has only been one obscure search for this weird video it couldn't find. Not a big deal. For most of my research, it hits the mark. There is an extra half second of latency in the response, but I can deal with that.
They have a plugin for Firefox, but I've configured it to perform address bar searches by A) opening a new tab B) typing 'about:config' C) Searching for the property 'keyword.url' D) Change it to ''
You're basically screwed here. Nothing works like Google Maps. They are echelons past their competitors. I can say that having used OpenLayers and ArcGIS for some technical work in the past. Plus we all remember how good a job Apple did with their iphone 5 maps.
Just make sure you're not logged into your Google Account and preferably running OpenVPN when you do your search.
Instant Messaging:
This is the first example you'll see where I lean more in the ease of use than the security.
When I'm going to run IM, I use encrypted Gtalk over Adium.
Mainly because it would take too much effort to convince all my friends to use to a protocol that allowed true point-to-point encryption that's off the record. I use SSL between my host and the GTalk server, but Google still has access on their servers to the plain text messages (even if it's OTR I suspect, no proof though). Moreover, your chat partner may not be using it, in which case all those messages are still visible downstream in plaintext.
The only good alternative is just to stop using it so damn much. This is a work in progress for me.
Video VoIP:
Skype sucks. It really does. They haven't been the same since Microsoft acquired them. What's interesting is the tool was built with pretty impressive reverse-engineering countermeasures, and goes through great lengths to circumvent NAT in order to make your calls. Unfortunately there are known backdoors where third parties can ease drop. It is not to be trusted anymore for secure conversations. I don't make video VoIP that frequently anymore, but if I had to I would try out Prism-Break's suggestion for Jitsi. It looks promising.
I would also avoid Facetime like the plague, simply because I think Apple has zero credibility for protecting your privacy (just as Microsoft and Google).
Social Networking:
Not much you can do here if you enjoy the major players like Facebook. Similar to instant messaging, you're limited by the people you want to communicate with. I'm reasonable careful these days about what I post on FB/LinkedIn/Google+ when I use them (which is infrequent). And I don't mean just what is publicly available to my contacts. I mean everything.
I personally don't have a problem with these services and think they add a lot of value. I try to keep really personal stuff off them, but that guarantee is a bit naive. I know I've slipped up a few times, and FB has access to some pretty funny private messages. I mostly enjoy the read-only features of these sites, and rarely contribute, but that's not really good enough.
Just by having an account with some basic information and friend links, they can learn a lot about you. For example, one of my good friends likes to check all of us in on Facebook when we go to a listed restaurant. That's not even something I opted into, but FB gets to learn facts about me based solely on that association. I've met girls who later looked me up through FB friends and sent weird unsolicited PMs. We've all been there. Facebook, and thus the government, has access to all that shit. They even have a whole suite of creepy analytics that can tell if you're gay.
Cloud Storage:
This is one of the more interesting ones. There are so many choices for secure backups, but it's difficult to find a be-all-end-all solution that satisfies everyone.
I personally use per-file encryption on Amazon S3. It's the same storage backend as Dropbox, but I encrypted everything first by hand and don't bother with file sync.
My methods are simple but require quite a bit of micro-mangement. I run each file through a Mac OSX utility named crypt from the command line before I post it to my S3 buckets. The utility defaults to AES-256 bit encryption and is really easy to use. This custom version I modified for OSX cleans up the command entry a bit from the authors original version.
I will say there are very fancy solutions out there for users who demand a bit more.
Dropbox is really slick with file sync and ease of use, but everything is unencrypted on Amazon. Unacceptable.
To counter this, some people supplement Dropbox with a tool named EncFS. It transparently encrypts/decrypts file contents from any directory, which works with Dropbox, but you need to be a bit of power user to set it up. There's also Tarsnap, but it supposedly doesn't handle incremental syncs well and doesn't work on Windows. One interesting solution I looked at was using BitTorrent Sync to do cross-device backups and syncing, but I wanted something that backs up to the cloud, not just my own devices. There really is no easy-to-use solution that efficiently synchronizes files and is secure. Dropbox + EncFS is close, but not exactly easy to use.
This one has been difficult. There aren't too many good solutions out there. I have looked at Zoho before and they offer a lot. It's hard to imagine it easier to use than Google Docs though. Prezi is cool for building presentations that don't look like PowerPoint vomit.
I really don't have a good suggestion here. If this became a frequent requirement, I'd probably create a new Google Account with some bogus personal information that wasn't associated with any of my previous Google Accounts. Although they could very easily correlate something written in one of my documents with a best-guess at a related Google account (also based on IP logging). Google's latest terms of service and privacy agreements allows for these types of cross-service analytics.
Media Publishing:
I use Imgur for everything.
Email Services:
Another interesting one. If I use an anonymous service like FastMail, but 70% of my emails go to Gmail recipients, am I really hiding anything from Google?
At the very least I'm not going to make it easy for them. So far I've been impressed with FastMail. The UI feels comfortably like Gmail, except much more responsive. It offers competitive features with Gmail like anti-spam, full text search, achieving, filtering and custom DNS. There are no ads, but it is a pay service.
Email Desktop Clients:
I haven't done this for quite some time. If I had to, I'd probably try Mozilla Thunderbird.
Email Encryption:
I don't bother with this. 99% of people don't want to fool with it. Just like with Dropbox + EncFS for file storage, most encrypted email systems require people who are somewhat technically competent. It's an unreasonable expectation.
Online Transactions:
Sadly I still use PayPal. A lot of people are attacking this problem right now (Stripe, Square, etc.) No one has come out victorious yet as the PayPal killer, but I am waiting anxiously.
BitCoin is a really cool technology that's gaining some traction, but many merchants don't yet accept it, and some of the security around wallet controls leaves a lot to be desired. It's interesting to read about how the currency works from a technical standpoint. It has resisted many attempts at exploitation and bot-mining, but the major weakness appears to be wallet security.
I dumped the NSA conspirator Verizon in favor of Solavei running over T-Mobile infrastructure. This involved forcefully unlocking my phone and installing a root kit to gain superuser permissions. If you're thinking of switching from Verizon to one of their competitors, don't try to port your phone unless you're prepared for USB debugging, ROM installation and a $15 unlock code (depending on the phone and whether or not you're willing to dig with a HEX editor). I learned a lot, but I wouldn't wish it on other people who just want their phone to work. I run CyanogenMod 7.2 for my Android ROM. I have no outbound encryption through for any of the common apps (Google Maps, Reddit, etc) so this is a weak point for me right now.
Operating System:
I run Mac OSX. It's just too smooth and efficient for technical work. I can't give it up. Linux is nice with respect to production scenarios, but the user-experience of most of the x-windows managers just doesn't compare to OSX. I'm very careful about what updates I perform though, and run Little Snitch so that I can approve and monitor any outbound connections my machine tries to make. It's technically possible Apple has baked some dubious reporting into the core apsd services, but there's not much more I can do without handicapping the machine.
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Subreddit Stats: ethereum top posts from 2014-11-18 to 2017-06-20 07:13 PDT

Period: 944.51 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 61673
Rate (per day) 1.06 65.27
Unique Redditors 494 8414
Combined Score 173555 279077

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 7923 points, 41 submissions: vbuterin
    1. Personal statement regarding the fork (535 points, 835 comments)
    2. A Grab Bag of Thoughts on ETC and Forks (456 points, 287 comments)
    3. Analyzing Token Sale Models (431 points, 102 comments)
    4. A note on how the latest Casper PoC accomplishes its fast block times safely (421 points, 80 comments)
    5. A (not so sneak) peek at the current version of the Casper contract (312 points, 77 comments)
    6. The Current HF Status (309 points, 507 comments)
    7. Should we make a move toward making checksummed hex addresses mandatory? (293 points, 78 comments)
    8. How can Ethereum Research be more welcoming to newcomers and people from the outside with good ideas? (287 points, 114 comments)
    9. Sharding Research in Mind Map Form (253 points, 27 comments)
    10. DELEGATECALL forwarders: how to save ~50-98% on making many new contracts with the same code (229 points, 32 comments)
  2. 4363 points, 27 submissions: Souptacular
    1. Why I Can't Defend Coindesk Any Longer. Take Action. Support Omar. (596 points, 117 comments)
    2. Help Wanted: Metropolis QA/Testing (236 points, 22 comments)
    3. Ethereum Core Dev Meeting and Metropolis Release Date (226 points, 57 comments)
    4. [ANN] Update your geth client to 1.5.3. Consensus bug in geth v1.4.19 and v1.5.2 - Ethereum Blog (220 points, 68 comments)
    5. Recommendations to miners to change gas limit and gas price settings [5/31/2017] (215 points, 89 comments)
    6. Humaniq is mass mailing people from the Ethereum community who did not sign up for their mailing list. Where did they get these email addresses? I demand an explanation. (199 points, 48 comments)
    7. Devcon3 Dates Announced: Nov. 1, 2, 3, 4. Save-the-date! (174 points, 41 comments)
    9. VERY ANNOUNCE (158 points, 43 comments)
    10. ATTENTION MINERS: We recommend raising gas limit to 4 million or higher now that the hard forks have completed (157 points, 34 comments)
  3. 3566 points, 19 submissions: twigwam
    1. Spotify acquires blockchain startup Mediachain to solve music’s attribution problem (413 points, 45 comments)
    2. The National Bank of Canada Just Joined An Alliance to Develop Ethereum [Motherboard] (303 points, 26 comments)
    3. Ethereum Stole the Show at Microsoft's New York City Demo Day (287 points, 9 comments)
    4. A secure internet voting system using Ethereum and Zero-Knowledge Proof (269 points, 103 comments)
    5. The UN Wants to Adopt Bitcoin And Ethereum, And Soon (259 points, 36 comments)
    6. The Birth of Enterprise Ethereum in 2017 (215 points, 40 comments)
    7. More Banks to Sign Up for ING's Ethereum Oil Trading Platform (181 points, 10 comments)
    8. Vinay Gupta - European Parliament blockchain presentation! (172 points, 25 comments)
    9. Ethereum Is Poised to Become the Global Blockchain of Choice [] (158 points, 1 comment)
    10. Vitalik @ SPIEF 2017 in Russia (157 points, 55 comments)
  4. 3434 points, 24 submissions: nickjohnson
    1. Announcing the Ethereum Name Service Relaunch Date! (283 points, 59 comments)
    2. Introducing BeerCoin (214 points, 132 comments)
    3. ENS launch officially postponed. We'll back off, improve testing & validation, write a postmortem, and relaunch when ready. (208 points, 42 comments)
    4. AMA: We are the ENS team. Ask us anything! (203 points, 285 comments)
    5. Ethereum gets quantum computing support with new EVM opcode 'TERMINATE' (169 points, 43 comments)
    6. Hosting a DNS domain on Ethereum (148 points, 19 comments)
    7. The ENS audit results are in! (145 points, 32 comments)
    8. Updated ENS now deployed on Ropsten testnet (144 points, 68 comments)
    9. Watch the Ethereum hardfork live at (144 points, 59 comments)
    10. A proposal for a new Ethereum Name Service (142 points, 23 comments)
  5. 3185 points, 15 submissions: econoar
    1. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (851 points, 98 comments)
    2. Santander Vies to Become First Bank to Issue Cash on Blockchain using Public Ethereum Chain (417 points, 82 comments)
    3. Ethereum isn't about price and hashrate, it's about making applications that could change the world. (332 points, 116 comments)
    4. geth fix is here (175 points, 39 comments)
    5. @avsa: Just tested @zsfelfoldi light client. Mainnet synced in 3m30s from scratch, used 30mb. Didn't need to change a single line of code in Mist. (165 points, 23 comments)
    6. Ethcore blog: "You should see fully hard-fork optional clients appearing in the next week or so" (156 points, 63 comments)
    7. Thomson Reuters is making their own Ethereum wallet (145 points, 33 comments)
    8. Nasdaq Veteran Joins Ethereum Foundation as Security Lead (143 points, 9 comments)
    9. Hard Fork Voting and Node Adoption Results - Constant Updates (120 points, 145 comments)
    10. Light Client ready to test later this week! (118 points, 23 comments)
  6. 3173 points, 20 submissions: thehighfiveghost
    1. Melonport: We’re very proud to announce our new v0.1.0 release of the Melon Portal! Feedback welcome! (248 points, 36 comments)
    2. Critical update RE: DAO Vulnerability (247 points, 998 comments)
    3. The Devcon2 site is now live! (242 points, 60 comments)
    4. BREAKING NEWS: I hereby announce that I, Vitalik Buterin, am the founder of ethereum. (239 points, 53 comments)
    5. Very happy to announce Devcon2 is now sold out! See you all in Shanghai! (201 points, 24 comments)
    6. New blog post from Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin: Hard Fork Completed (179 points, 59 comments)
    7. The Ethereum Foundation and Wanxiang Blockchain Labs announce a blockbuster event combining Devcon2 and the 2nd Global Blockchain Summit in Shanghai, September 19–24, 2016 (173 points, 31 comments)
    8. Andreas Antonopoulos: Stop calling ethereum "the bitcoin rival". No one in ethereum or bitcoin believes it is a rival. Post-national currencies are not zero-sum! (166 points, 117 comments)
    9. The Ethereum Foundation is very proud to announce Banco Santander’s Gold Sponsorship of Devcon2, Shanghai, 19th - 21st Sept (164 points, 30 comments)
    10. "$1 Million Dollars Have Bid for Ethereum Names, Weather.eth Auctions for $25,000" (159 points, 42 comments)
  7. 2769 points, 16 submissions: latetot
    1. Thomson Reuters to make financial data available on Ethereum (380 points, 34 comments)
    2. Ever wonder how people are using ETH right now? see top contracts by gas used today: ENS, Etherdelta, gambling, exchanges, tokens - Good times! (331 points, 57 comments)
    3. Vitalik confirms Zero knowledge proofs are on ETH roadmap (205 points, 87 comments)
    4. The ability to reverse exploits that violate the intent and good faith actions of thousands of people will promote mainstream adoption - not hinder it. (196 points, 545 comments)
    5. Ethereum processed more transactions than Bitcoin yesterday (193 points, 18 comments)
    6. Brian Armstrong, Coinbase CEO, 'if Ethereum pulls off this hard fork, very positive signal...shows they can listen to community, execute in time of crisis' (174 points, 116 comments)
    7. Attacker is gearing up again for new spam deluge (155 points, 123 comments)
    8. Harvard researcher says Bitcoin is highly centralized network and ETH foundation provides more democratic governance (150 points, 68 comments)
    9. Good news on gas prices: we now have 7 miners and about 11% of the network hashpower accepting a 2 gwei Gas Price (148 points, 26 comments)
    10. Protocol upgrades are critical to allow Ethereum to reach its full potential. Some instability in ETH's multiple clients around the time of a key upgrades is a small price to pay for progress (143 points, 63 comments)
  8. 2695 points, 16 submissions: karalabe
    1. Geth v1.6.5 - Hat Trick (counters current attack) (305 points, 74 comments)
    2. Roses are red, Violets are blue, Geth now supports Hardware wallets too! (v1.5.9) (275 points, 53 comments)
    3. Geth 1.6.0 - Puppeth Master released! Our best work till now ;) (246 points, 73 comments)
    4. Never fear, Geth 1.6.3 - Covfefe is here! (233 points, 43 comments)
    5. Geth 1.4.8 "DAO Wars" Released (216 points, 185 comments)
    6. Security Alert - DoS Vulnerability in the Soft Fork (181 points, 254 comments)
    7. Whoa... Geth 1.5 - Ethereum Blog (158 points, 22 comments)
    8. Geth 1.4.15: Come at me Bro (DoS fixes) (149 points, 75 comments)
    9. Geth 1.4.9 - Reverting Faulty Code - Miners Please update (141 points, 16 comments)
    10. Geth 1.6.2 (Nonce, Inc.) just out! (132 points, 30 comments)
  9. 2466 points, 13 submissions: avsa
    1. Starter guide: (almost) all the links you'll need to start understanding ethereum. (437 points, 198 comments)
    2. Update on the White Hat attack (379 points, 263 comments)
    3. New website: more content, more tutorials, more explanations, more unicorns. It's a new dawn! (216 points, 66 comments)
    4. We are doing a white hat attack on the DAO. (198 points, 267 comments)
    5. Ethereum Name Service Bug Bounty is Live (194 points, 19 comments)
    6. Release 0.8: First Mist Beta is out! Also, Wallet update. (172 points, 88 comments)
    7. New Ethereum Wallet 0.7.5, the "I'm sorry for 0.7.4" version. (150 points, 53 comments)
    8. Wallet and Mist 0.8.2: Coinbase integration, replay protection, new Auth UI and more (147 points, 69 comments)
    9. How to build server less applications for Mist - Ethereum Blog (126 points, 9 comments)
    10. Wrote a proposal for a .eth name registrar that would fight name squatting without requiring fees. Feedback? (124 points, 49 comments)
  10. 2447 points, 11 submissions: sandakersmann
    1. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: "I am working 100% on ETH." (359 points, 129 comments)
    2. Ethereum Reaches 50% of Bitcoin's Transaction Volumes (349 points, 78 comments)
    3. Looks like the work on "Mastering Ethereum" has started :) (278 points, 98 comments)
    4. What is Ethereum, and could it actually replace Bitcoin? (251 points, 78 comments)
    5. Gavin Andresen on Twitter: "ETH has 80% of BTC volume and is scaling with little drama. BTC's scaling 'problem' is due to a few 'we know what's best' devs" (231 points, 90 comments)
    6. Ethereum now has more nodes than Bitcoin! (183 points, 26 comments)
    7. Marius Kjærstad on Twitter: "At this pace it won't be many days before #Ethereum facilitates more transactions than #Bitcoin" (173 points, 26 comments)
    8. Raiden Network IoT Demo. Enabling high speed asset transfers for Ethereum. (172 points, 24 comments)
    9. Ethereum is Now the Most Secure Public Blockchain, Overtaking Bitcoin (171 points, 5 comments)
    10. Ethereum: Taking Back Control Of The Internet (Joseph Lubin) (144 points, 11 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. vbuterin (7081 points, 396 comments)
  2. nickjohnson (5788 points, 814 comments)
  3. FaceDeer (2640 points, 435 comments)
  4. avsa (2510 points, 291 comments)
  5. Souptacular (2135 points, 249 comments)
  6. latetot (2025 points, 389 comments)
  7. insomniasexx (1917 points, 207 comments)
  8. 5chdn (1824 points, 331 comments)
  9. Huynh_B (1713 points, 10 comments)
  10. aribolab (1664 points, 231 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. If this was you, thank you. by JcsPocket (1503 points, 173 comments)
  2. "If bitcoin is a pocketcalculator ethereum is a brand new iphone" - Germanys second biggest Newspaper on bitcoin by postkasten (987 points, 99 comments)
  3. Charged a BMW i3 at a "blockchainified" Share&Charge station today. Paid with Ethereum ERC20 Euro tokens through their app. People are now using Ethereum without ever having heard of it. by BullBearBabyWhale (891 points, 118 comments)
  4. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. by econoar (851 points, 98 comments)
  5. [UPDATED] It’s Time to Get Real: Stop Relying on Third Parties to Protect You & Your Funds. You are responsible for your security. by insomniasexx (835 points, 197 comments)
  6. - Payment gateway running on smart contracts by krocobill (834 points, 66 comments)
  7. Yesterday Ethereum surpassed BTC. ETh processed 240,490 transactions, Bitcoin "only" 222,746 by nibbio1990 (782 points, 100 comments)
  8. Ethereum Payment Channels in 50 Lines of Solidity Code - Ethereum is Scalable RIGHT NOW by mattdf (754 points, 104 comments)
  9. I just sent my dad some Ethereum for Father's Day! by SpeedyCorals (742 points, 204 comments)
  10. United Nations Sends Aid to 10,000 Syrian Refugees Using Ethereum Blockchain by ThatSocio (722 points, 67 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 1517 points: Huynh_B's comment in If this was you, thank you.
  2. 414 points: kezekia's comment in I just sent my dad some Ethereum for Father's Day!
  3. 389 points: apoefjmqdsfls's comment in Critical update RE: DAO Vulnerability
  4. 288 points: bitcoinensowner's comment in Vitalik about Bitcoin implementation on Ethereum : "Does someone want to take on this project?"
  5. 283 points: FaceDeer's comment in ETH Price Discussion Frowned Upon
  6. 264 points: Juankestein's comment in If this was you, thank you.
  7. 258 points: Omgjenny's comment in If this was you, thank you.
  8. 240 points: viners's comment in How long until we have proof of steak?
  9. 234 points: vbuterin's comment in VladZamfir:" If the price of ether stays high, I really hope the Ethereum community considers slashing block rewards by at least a factor of 4."
  10. 229 points: 0xNeffarion's comment in I just sent my dad some Ethereum for Father's Day!
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The end is neigh! Rilly has been accused of "noise" at tactic that effectively censors by shoving everything up the memory hole. Dump of #general from then to now.

leithaus 6:32 PM If she redeems the AMP for a RHOC and even 1 RHOC is burned, then she has 1/(1B -1 ) of the total supply of RHOCs. (edited) 6:32 This is a strictly better position than her position in AMPs. 6:34 Now, we have gone over the arrangement between the Co-op and the Holdings company in detail many times. lexysis 6:34 PM Show us the documents leithaus 6:34 PM There have been infographics, discussions, all posted in videos. lexysis 6:34 PM Show us what the arrangement is in legal terms 6:34 this information should be given to everyone in a structured manner leithaus 6:35 PM It has been over the last 4 months. lexysis 6:36 PM We don't want an infographic. We want actual precise language. For example, it's not enough for you to say "don't worry about X because the company is legally bound to develop on the platform." You should give us the actual legal documents that precisely describe what the situation is. amp100 6:36 PM Keep ignoring Greg. Nobody watches those hangouts anymore thats why we all keep asking here! 007 6:37 PM @leithaus Please, all I'm asking is: what will be the total Rchain if 10 mil amp are swapped. Please no formulas just a number. lexysis 6:38 PM You're doing the equivalent of telling us that we should trust some smart contract code we've never seen, because you've told us in videos and infographics about how it works. Do you not see how this goes against the whole idea of this project? amp100 6:38 PM @ed.eykholt Ok mayeb I misquoted you, though that didn't change anything at all IMO. 'under any circumstances' is the same for me as 'in any case'. So the 105 million won't be changed 'in any case'. (now happy?) And nwo please answer what will hapopen if 10 million coins will be swapped. Pinned by fdt leithaus 6:39 PM As we posted back in February, we will burn the difference between what's in circulation versus what's redeemed. amp100 6:39 PM Where does teh burning come from if the Holding wont be touched! The 1:10 ratio cant be honored in that case. 6:40 As teh Holding company holds 105 million and teh total supply would be 100 million if 10 mill is swapped ed.eykholt 6:40 PM @amp100 No, I said there is no plan to return them; the whole sentence matters. (edited) Pinned by fdt leithaus 6:40 PM What's in circulation is roughly 115M, take away 10M, that's 105M burned. Leaving a total supply of 895M. amp100 6:40 PM Ed : 'in any case'. 6:40 SO thats why I ask this question abotu 10 million amps. Will that 'in any case' change? ed.eykholt 6:41 PM @amp100 Greg is addressing the question about supply. I'm not going to. amp100 6:41 PM Ok 6:41 So now we are getting somewhere Greg. 007 6:42 PM Thanks Greg!!! (edited) amp100 6:42 PM The Holding company keeps 105? +10 = 115 and teh rest gets burned. So then teh next question! How is this all gonna work with teh Rchain COOP having ZERO Rhocs? leithaus 6:43 PM No, you have misunderstood. 007 6:43 PM so only 105 mil Rchain would be burnt if 10 mill are swapped.?? leithaus 6:43 PM The Holding Company has what it has. End of story. 6:43 @007 that's correct. amp100 6:43 PM lol? Pinned by fdt leithaus 6:43 PM i have to double check the number of AMPs in circulation is 115M. amp100 6:43 PM OMG 6:44 This you coudl anwers very very easily a long time ago to all these people who ask here! 6:44 yes you kept ignoring and saying it was in some hangouts. 6:44 I cant believe this. 6:44 Anyway the dillution will be ridiculous to swappers. bad deal. 6:45 Thanks for finally answering , it cost me lots of valuable hours/days/weeks/months. Pinned by fdt leithaus 6:45 PM Assuming that is correct, if only 10M is redeemed, then 105RHOCS get burned. So, the total supply of RHOCs is 1000M - 105M = 895M. 007 6:45 PM I might be mistaken, but I recall a plan to burn MUCH more amps. leithaus 6:46 PM They aren't going to do that. 6:46 But, anyway, if you don't want to participate, don't. 6:46 We don't need this. We're doing it as a service to the people who were defrauded. 6:47 People who feel this doesn't serve their interests should definitely not participate. 007 6:49 PM Currently AMPs in circulation are 10% on total supply. If we maintain the same ratio (10 mill swapped) we should end with 100 mil Rchain??? (edited) leithaus 6:50 PM @amp100 - your calculations are incorrect. No matter how you calculate this, RHOC holders' positions are not diluted at all. They are improved. If you look at the position of liquid, they are in a much, much better position. If you look at the total supply they are in a slightly better position. amp100 6:50 PM no. as 10 million will be in circulation and a 895 million supply 6:51 Bad 6:51 Holdings companies coins are not in circulation yet. 6:51 This is very bad for investors/swappers or however the hell u wanan call it leithaus 6:51 PM Do whatever you think is right! 007 6:51 PM 10 mil rchain circulation and 895 millin supply DOES'T maintain the same synereo ratio amp100 6:52 PM You not maintain your promise Greg. leithaus 6:52 PM If you feel it doesn't serve you, please don't participate. ed.eykholt 6:53 PM @amp100 Holdings company RHOCs are in circulation. amp100 6:54 PM Synereo company hold abotu 850 million coins and 85 in circulation. Total supply is 1.1 x what SYnereo holds. In Rchains case its far from 1.1x. It's 9 x.:joy: (edited) 007 6:54 PM Back in January I understood that the ratio would be the same as Synereo. If only 10 mil Rchain are in circulation how do we get to 900 mil Rchain supply?? amp100 6:55 PM @ed.eykholt Do as Synereo does and you get a 115 million total supply. 6:55 10 million investors and 105 by company. (synereo 85 million investors and 850 million company) 6:56 This is teh worst deal ever, and not even close to all your promises Greg. 6:56 What a joke... 007 6:57 PM Wish I could get slack archive. What was said few months back is completely different. 6:59 This is NOT the same ratio Synereo I was promised! amp100 6:59 PM It's not even close..... leithaus 7:00 PM Again, please don't participate if it doesn't serve your interests. amp100 7:00 PM Synereo holds 1:10 (investors : synereo) If Rchain woudl do that it would be 10:100. 7:00 Greg is a big liar and never keeps his words. What a fking joke. 007 7:01 PM I remember we spokes about it here and understood that total amp swapped to rchain would be approximately 10% of total supply. (10% is the synereo ratio). amp100 7:01 PM Only cares about safing his ass from legal battles and only cares to enrich himself in a way that it looks like that isnt the case. 7:02 @007 we re fucked over once again. 007 7:03 PM @amp100 no need to be nasty.... we are here to get answers help decide if to swap or not. Lets not insult. lexysis 7:06 PM @leithaus and @ed.eykholt - Will you please start putting these questions and answers into an official FAQ? cleiton 7:07 PM joined #general lexysis 7:07 PM you will save everyone so much time and energy if you will just make this basic effort to professionalize your communication amp100 7:07 PM @007 indeed but having be here for at least 300 hours I feel fucked over once again. My words aren't nasty, Greg is nasty.... Fact imo, his words not kept as usual. And these were very IMPORTANT words to keep. (edited) 7:08 Anyway I'm out. 007 7:10 PM I understand the frustration. I have been waiting months for the swap to start. Burn ratio is not what we were promised back in January. 7:12 Well now we know.... will keep my amp's, maybe sell and get into ETH. 7:12 Rchain Good luck! 7:14 In January we were speculating on 30 mil amp being swapped. Now it looks like less than 10 mil. 7:16 So far only the CORE slack members (Greg followers) swapped. Why invest here with these burn ratio, take a risk?? Cosmos already done it. tantrum 7:31 PM how many amps swapped to date greg? (edited) 007 7:38 PM @leithaus I feel deceived now. leithaus 7:39 PM If you include the ones recently pledged, but not yet processed, just under 4M. 7:39 If you include my founder's AMPs, it's about 104M. 7:39 :slightly_smiling_face: ab 7:40 PM So u have 100m or the coop (edited) 007 7:41 PM your founders amps are locked no?? leithaus 7:41 PM Thereabouts. You can check the founders' wallets. 7:41 But mine are going to be redeemed. :slightly_smiling_face: 007 7:41 PM when redeemed? 7:42 before the end of the week? 7:42 the swap is only 10 days. 7:43 you will swap in the future outside the 10 day swap window? 7:46 The swap is only for 10 days. 7:47 when you get your founder amps, you could sell them on polo and buy Rchain on the market. leithaus 7:53 PM No. They will be redeemed. 007 7:58 PM you could redeem you founder amps now??? Before the 10 day swap period? 007 8:04 PM First I don't think that you have a special option to swap amp's at any FUTURE date! it's in 10 days or never! (edited) libertyzeal22 8:16 PM joined #general libertyzeal22 8:17 PM at what point in the redemption process should i receive a confirmation email? tantrum 8:18 PM 104 millino amps ???? :thinking_face:# 007 8:21 PM @leithaus This is a big lie! you don't have 100 mil amps. you have 25 mil. 8:21 perlis 8:21 PM if I hold them to exchanges, how do I swap them? 007 8:23 PM 100 mil amps for 4 founders!! For a math wiz your numbers are not adding up. tantrum 8:23 PM oh so the general hockey pockey stuff! its "pledged" :joy: leithaus If you include the ones recently pledged, but not yet processed, just under 4M. Posted in #generalYesterday at 7:39 PM (edited) 007 8:25 PM He also said: " If you include my founder's AMPs, it's about 104M " 8:28 Oh-boy... glad we found out all the info now before swapping! Greg is using random numbers in his calculations. tantrum 8:28 PM tantrum 8:28 PM :joy::joy::joy: leithaus 8:29 PM Sorry, i just forgot what was in the founders' wallets. 8:29 That's why i said check. :-) 8:30 But, my AMPs will be redeemed. libertyzeal22 8:30 PM Well, I just redeemed my vast fortune of 20k AMPS, lol.. leithaus 8:30 PM :-) 8:31 Yay! 8:32 i'm just glad we can help out everyone who wants to continue being a part of the platform. libertyzeal22 8:33 PM That's just it, I wanted to invest in a technology platform, not a marketing campaign. ab 8:33 PM Well, if some of u naysayers think holding amps with Dor is less of a risk, then u are simply diluding yourselves.. libertyzeal22 8:35 PM Is there anyway to confirm a successful redemption? 007 8:38 PM @leithaus are you planning to liquidate your amp founder wallet in the future? ab 8:39 PM Well @leithaus , for better or for worse I am casting my lot with Rchain, because ultimately I think it has the potential to be the first truely scalable blockchain platform. rilly 8:40 PM Was Synereo "legally bound" to produce RChain? If so, what are you doing to recover this funding? Are you even getting any of your founders AMPs from them instead? leithaus Instead only 11% of the treasury has been transferred to a company that is legally bound to develop on the platform. Posted in #generalYesterday at 6:30 PM rilly 8:50 PM Ohh well that's rather important but not really because RHOCs expire at the end of 2018. Then you can issue more Revs instead. But no one has claimed Revs will be the sole staking currency on Rchain so you can make more tokens after that. LOL Pinned by fdt leithaus As we posted back in February, we will burn the difference between what's in circulation versus what's redeemed. Posted in #generalYesterday at 6:39 PM 8:51 1.12. Promotional Credits are valid for a limited time only and expire on December 31, 2018. Failure to use Promotional Credits to receive Eligible Services before such expiration date will result in the forfeiture of Promotional Credits. We reserve the right to modify or withdraw this promotional offer or cancel Promotional Credits at any time. No refunds will be granted for any expired or cancelled Promotional Credits. 8:51 source!/eligibility-check 8:54 And every hoop you jump through could require more stringent identification. (You might not care but the market certainly will.) amp100 8:55 PM @tantrum when Dor said that, just now? 8:55 So Greg can't acces his AMP's and yet he says he can swap them within the swap period? I smell another lie? (edited) rilly 9:02 PM See there is this problem with defining AMPs. 9:03 Greg can just issue himself RHOCs and say he redeemed his AMPs. 9:04 Don't assume that means that he will have AMP omni assets to sell in order to fund Rchain. 9:06 Or perhaps this is part of some deal he struck with Synereo LTD that he won't help recover the crowdfunds if they give him those amp omni assets. 9:07 That is probably the best you can do but maybe since the bnktothefuture thing is in the US you could make a case there. amp100 9:07 PM @leithaus Please respond to this: how will you redeem your founders AMPs if you don't have access to them as Dor controls it and makes the rules? (edited) rilly 9:15 PM And until he sells those AMP omni assets and they get mixed with the rest there is a risk that Synereo LTD could void them and refuse to use them to issue AMPs on their blockchain (assuming thatn's not RChain, etc) 9:15 AMPs and RHOCs are IOUs for we know not what darkpill 9:41 PM WTF is the developer posting memes and calling them infographics? There is no transparency here. You guys need to get your shit together, or I'll be publicly calling this out as scam. (edited) biophil 9:50 PM joined #general biophil 10:13 PM When I sent my AMPs to the target address given to me by the redemption website, I had this crazy idea that the redemption process would be the following things: 1. Documented somewhere 2. Transparent 3. Automated 4. HonestSo far, it appears to fail miserably on points 1-3, and we're still waiting to see about point 4. I sent a small enough amount that I won't lose my house if it turns out I've been scammed. My message to whomever is in charge of this: You should be embarrassed by your lack of professionalism regarding this swap. (edited) rilly 10:30 PM The less RHOCs you claim the more they own! I guess they say they will burn some but Greg will be issuing himself RHOCs for his founder AMPs (even though Synereo may not giving them to him) so he will have a shitton and thus burning will be more profitable to him personally. 10:32 They make the redemption as unattractive as possible and hardly promote it anywhere so they will have a larger share of RHOCS. (edited) 10:33 It is just so Greg and Synereo can pacify AMP buyers so they won't pursue legal action, or so they can win a defense. dandelion 10:57 PM so in regards to that, what does the founders AMPs count as? redeemed or in circulation? Pinned by fdt leithaus As we posted back in February, we will burn the difference between what's in circulation versus what's redeemed. Posted in #generalYesterday at 6:39 PM 10:57 AMP founders wallet only has 60M AMPs now 10:58 Well there's the vested founders wallet too with 40M 10:58 Data taken from: libertyzeal22 12:07 AM @biophil did you get a notification email of any kind? fweili 12:35 AM Hi, can someone let me know when the batches of redemption will be done? I submitted my first try over 36 hours ago and still haven't seen the RHOCS. ab 12:36 AM i think it was said either tonight or tomorrow night fweili 12:49 AM Thanks! amp100 1:38 AM @leithaus Help these guys out, seriously what are you waiting for?? 1:40 You promised for max 24 hour conversions. Again you didn't kept ur word. 1:41 Another thing, I just found another lie of yours. You said you would swap 25 million founders AMPs. This is incorrect and you know it! You can NOT thouch the founders AMPs as Dor decides when they can be moved. 1:42 So explain to me how you will get your founders AMPs into Rhocs? Will you do a secret deal later on when you finally have access to your AMPs? Please inform us if that is a possibility or if you can not do that. biophil 3:13 AM @libertyzeal22 no notification email. leithaus 5:01 AM The next batch will be run tomorrow. blo 8:13 AM I had my AMP in 2 different addresses. I ended up going through the redemption process twice and used the same email both times. I hope that doesn't cause any problems. tomtreeleaf 10:41 AM Still awaiting Rhoc. Man. This has been one painful experience from start to end. 10:42 I certainly hope we can get this redemption soon so you guys can get back to tech. tantrum 11:55 AM @amp100 dor said that a couple week ago darkpill 12:00 PM Just publish the fucking numbers regarding supply and dev allocation publicly now. 007 12:27 PM We need to be sure that any Founder AMP's will not be swapped in the future. The swap window is for 10 days only! coininterview 2:10 PM Live leithaus 2:26 PM @tomtreeleaf - we will run the next batch a little later today. Don't fret. tomtreeleaf 2:27 PM @leithaus thankyou;) peculiarity 2:38 PM joined #general peculiarity 2:42 PM hey guys cobordism 2:43 PM joined #general otomplodomo 2:45 PM Hey @peculiarity. Does the peculiarity precede or follow the singularity? peculiarity 2:46 PM precede :slightly_smiling_face: cobordism 2:48 PM trying to get amps to rhocs... first time using bitcoin again in ages... has it always been this slow?! sighh... cobordism 2:54 PM I didn't have enough btc in the amp account to pay for gas the transaction... trying to get some more btc into that account has been taking hours(!) jimscarver 2:54 PM bitcoin block time was 25mins when I redeemed... we need rchain! :smile: (edited) cobordism 2:55 PM I'll take ethereum in the interim leithaus 3:14 PM The Holding Company/Co-op agreement is here leithaus 3:14 PM 20170307 RHOC purchase and deferred payment agreement Executed redacted.pdf
229KB PDF from Google Drive Click to open in Google Drive mungwi 3:43 PM trying to get my private key out of my armory paper wallet... initial bitcoin core client blockchain sync is PITA, does bitcoin land have no fast sync options? libertyzeal22 4:48 PM so for receiving RHOC's is there a token contract address we need to use? 4:48 (in mist / eth wallet) pythagoras 4:51 PM Redemptionprocess with omniwallet is not working. When choosing ‘send’ it is impossible to choose the amp coin, and it’s impossible to choose the ’from adress. Tried it on several devices (macbook, iphone, windos-pc) and several browsers (IE, Safari, Chrome, FireFox), same problem everywhere. Must be an OmniWallet bug !! biophil 6:20 PM @leithaus from what I can make out from that document, the Holdings company is funding the development of Rchain by buying RHOCs at $0.05? So we exchangers are essentially buying RHOCs at $0.08-9, or for whatever our personal AMP cost basis is. Then when the exchange process ends, all RHOCs in existence have either been a. Sold to the Holdings company, b. Exchanged for AMPs, or c. Are still held by you.Is this correct? If so, what are you going to do with the remainder of the tokens in (c)? You have said something about burning them, but that appears to contradict section E.1. of the agreement you posted where it is implied that the Co-op can continue to sell RHOCs as it sees fit. mungwi 6:32 PM hah my cost basis is 0.14 biophil 6:34 PM @mungwi that's a lot better than some peoples'! libertyzeal22 7:21 PM it would be nice if there was someone here who could answer redemption questions, since it's there's only, what 8 days left? patrick727 7:23 PM @libertyzeal22 yes you need an ethereum wallet with keys that you control to recieve rhocs. myetherwallet works well. You will need to add cutom token in order to see it libertyzeal22 7:23 PM @patrick sure, I have the core wallet, but for the custom token I don't know the contract address? 7:24 @patrick727 oops, wrong patrick, see other message :smiley: patrick727 7:25 PM To see RHOC in choose add custom token, address 0x168296bb09e24a88805cb9c33356536b980d3fc5, with 8 decimal places amp100 7:44 PM @leithaus Greg keeps ignoring important questions and keeps being a liar. he said he would swap his founders AMPs (25 million) during the swap. But he fully knows that he can not swap them as he doesn't have acces to them as he need Dor to give the OK before founders AMPs can be thouched. So AGAIN Greg, what will happen with your founders AMPs in the future? Will you create a back door so you can swap outside of the swap window? What can we expect? (edited) amp100 7:52 PM All his lies and delays and the damage he did to us investors for wasting so much time will haunt him for a very long time. Greg I advise you to be more clear and keep your words. blo 7:56 PM 25 million AMP! That's a nice amount to hold. coininterview 7:56 PM its actually 100 million libertyzeal22 8:02 PM @patrick727 thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for, unfortunately my balance still shows 0 though.. patrick727 8:03 PM That's unfortunate, I know the next batch process is happening soon. libertyzeal22 8:04 PM @patrick727 thanks, been 26 hours since I submitted it approx patrick727 8:09 PM No problem, these questions of issuance are interesting. keep in mind these tokens are meant to run the RChain platform, it's not equity. Co-op and Holdings intend on running the platform. jessecouch 8:13 PM This is a meta-coin so all the coins start from a single source. I think the coop has 800 million coins. Is that what 800 million wallet is? fredmadrid 8:58 PM joined #general rilly 9:06 PM If you are wondering who @patrick727 was talking to it was me before the comments were deleted. Was the COOP consulted? Does anyone have any say or knowledge in the negotiations between Synereo LTD and Greg Meredith? Does anyone care whether Greg is issuing himself RHOCs for his founder's AMPs without actually recovering or contributing AMP omni assets to the development funds? The only way the community will have any control is by issuing your own tokens. #a-fork-of-rchain (edited) 9:08 And participating in uncensored social networks like reddit Synereo/RChain evaluations and alternatives • ethereo Synereo/RChain is the latest of the cryptocurrency to be sold before they abandoned their pre-sale commitments. With proof-of-work becoming... libertyzeal22 9:08 PM Dumb question, who is Greg exactly otomplodomo 9:19 PM He is the CEO of rchain. Chief Scientist. (edited) libertyzeal22 9:21 PM @otomplodomo okay, then so yeah, I'm going to trust that guy, there is no RHOC without him. The value of RHOC is literally in his mind and the people who help him. rilly 9:31 PM That value being quite different from the future market value. (edited) rilly 9:36 PM Although being that issuance is entirely centrally managed by someone who has a history of abandoning explicit and implicit promises and expectations, he should be a lot more informed to make a judgement of what the future market value will be as compared with those who buy and hold RHOC. 9:38 What he is promising at this point is that you will help the development of Rchain and get early access to "services" up to a certain date; perhaps the service of producing the Ethereum token. LOL 9:41 They reserve the right to void your tokens for doing such naughty things as attempting to resell them. 9:41 Did you read the contract? libertyzeal22 10:13 PM @rilly my understanding is that RHOC's are basically placeholder tokens which we will later be exchanged for the native rchain tokens (similar to ETH) rilly 10:17 PM I thought that's what most would assume from Synereo/Rchain's marketing materials. But the contract makes no such promise and JohnMalthus tells us that at least two more fundraisers are planned and Vlad Zamfir seems to imply that these two fundraisers will involve the issuance of new tokens, Rev or whatever. (edited) libertyzeal22 10:23 PM @rilly " The promotional coupon token will then be later redeemable for a to-be-created software access protocol token on the to-be-developed RChain network. "... 10:27 @rilly definitely not your typical crowdsale, but I'd rather be holding RHOC's than AMP's rilly 10:28 PM When? What happens if they haven't launched their own blockchain by the end of 2018? It says they are void. libertyzeal22 10:28 PM @rilly where does it say that? 10:29 @rilly oh i see rilly 10:30 PM "AMP vs RHOC" those are your choices? Can't you sell AMP anonymously? You can't even buy RHOC for the AMP price without agreeing to these conditions that say you can owe them RHOC for even trying to resell them! LOL (edited) 10:31 It ends today. "After the closing of the Promotional Credits Offer on April 10, 2017, all requests for Promotional Credits in return for AMPs will be refused." (edited) libertyzeal22 10:32 PM @rilly sure, but the only reason I own AMP's at all was to invest in Rchain rilly 10:33 PM 1.12. Promotional Credits are valid for a limited time only and expire on December 31, 2018. Failure to use Promotional Credits to receive Eligible Services before such expiration date will result in the forfeiture of Promotional Credits. We reserve the right to modify or withdraw this promotional offer or cancel Promotional Credits at any time. No refunds will be granted for any expired or cancelled Promotional Credits. 10:36 Greg has not been reciprocating to "investors" in the past. You can look at his kickstarter campaign for a book. A decade later they are selling the book without giving it to the crowdfunders. 10:38 The campain included no refund or time limit, just like this one. leithaus 10:41 PM The next batch of redemption requests have been processed. leithaus 10:41 PM
"ampTrgtAddr" : "19dQWWNFqBCBNvbdPAumjeHcmbBYqyQTTB" -> "rhocTrgtAddr" : "0xE9be94b552eB81228482321710e1d8A485eC360F" 23431.0535321
"ampTrgtAddr" : "1F1w2SgiRVzyvT8ZqiS4r6sg5XtorCrPxb" -> "rhocTrgtAddr" : "0x1dffdb0eebb0e80eb22af3adbeb0070a40d384ee" 1725.12313909
"ampTrgtAddr" : "1GLhh92yegXh6qc1a3arqmD1AEDUFHds6x" -> "rhocTrgtAddr" : "0x1917aE21F1269F84fa93E9200106DCf9a4e3C513" 2412.089788
"ampTrgtAddr" : "1J6gVdzZzYUTFeD4HnXfK9PemF2soBzb3x" -> "rhocTrgtAddr" : "0xAF42df07969BA5Da676be3ED94439Ab85008aabf" 4200.00
"ampTrgtAddr" : "1BRg9TxctqzG9bUu4cVSKHyxztcTp57daL" -> "rhocTrgtAddr" : "0xB259AA92C97fbaA9001BA213680034f1D5C4C777" 13242.42527602
leithaus 10:42 PM These can be checked against both blockchains. libertyzeal22 10:42 PM @leithaus cool, checking now! dc 10:42 PM Awesome. FYI I’ve submitted a request to etherscan to have the RHOC token contract recognised in their list of verified tokens rilly 10:42 PM We can make our own tokens for those who want to invest in Rchain. The problem with the way these Rchain devs think is that they will "get Rchain built faster" by tricking "investors" over and over. It isn't working. Ethereum and Cosmos are getting way more funding by making offers that are attractive to rational investors and sticking to their commitments. libertyzeal22 10:43 PM @leithaus w00t, it worked, awesome leithaus 10:44 PM If your ampTrgtAddr is not included, this is either because you did not send AMPs to the AMP target address supplied to you, or in 1 outlier case, you provided a bad ETH address. 10:44 @dc - many thanks! libertyzeal22 10:45 PM @rilly I don't think you understand how this ICO stuff works, the devs could literally wake up tomorrow and decide not to do this, or the theoretical basis of the software might just outright fail, you are looking for guarantees and there are none in this game. rilly 11:00 PM @libertyzeal22 I've done quite well predicting the future market of ETH and ATOM. Although Rchain is likely to be dominant, ethchain or credichain could be far more profitable to those who invest in ETH or CRED. libertyzeal22 11:06 PM @rilly the point i'm trying to make is that worrying about the finer points of the contract is a waste of energy, if you don't believe the team is authentic and has a chance of delivering on this project, then there is simply no reason to invest or hang around here. rilly 11:06 PM Because Greg and Co can and will dilute Rev to the point that so many people have acquired it without much effort that by the time of the announcement that a million billion Rev will be issued for the next fundraiser, the same thing will happen that has happened with AMP. Some may rather join ethchain. At least with credichain RHOC/Rev/etc would be redeemable but the rates may not be great, at that time. 11:07 Didn't Greg deliver a book? When did I say he wouldn't deliver? After a decade he wrote a book. Didn't someone say Rchain would take a decade? 11:08 I'm here because I think they are already delivering information goods. 11:08 That doesn't mean RHOC will be a better investment than ETH or CRED libertyzeal22 11:09 PM @rilly you're constanting attacking the dudes character saying he's effectively going to do a cramdown and screw everyone, so obviously you don't trust him, so i again i ask, why are you here? 11:10 @rilly actually n/m it doesn't matter. I don't care.. rilly 11:10 PM Here is what Greg just sent me "Hello! i have had complaints about your signal to noise ratio on slack. Additionally due to limits on history you are erasing important posts. i must ask you to confine yourself to more on topic commentary and become a bit more considerate of the public resource." 11:11 So what is on-topic in #general? 11:12 I'm censoring the community because Slack sucks everything up the memory hole. LOL rilly 11:20 PM @libertyzeal22 I can speak when spoken to or no? I'm here because I think Rholang and the RhoVM could be the most advanced contract language to date.
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Do you think that BlackBerry will ever be a number three contender? Number three? Possibly. I think it would need a few things to happen but the main thing is a shift in the market towards either security, or functionality. Being number 3? I don't think anytime soon but if they're able to pull things together, I think they could do it. It depends on far too many factors that I'm just not experienced enough in to say.
Also, why do you despise apple so much? About why I despise apple so much? I can't get into their workflow. I've owned iMacs, MacBooks, iPods, iPads, and a couple of iPhones. No matter how long I stick with it, I end up getting terribly frustrated on how Apple insists I do things and I end up selling whatever it is Apple I have. Whether it be in their OS, how you have a context frame per application and everything works through not the open window, but through what your context is, or just the devices themselves.
Therefore people who realize it's an illusion of cool will be subconsciously turned off by it, because contrary to claims, its nothing special. Normally this kind of fad doesn't last long, but apple will do well as long as users maintain this self induced high.
I prefer some element of customization. Until I jailbreak the iPhone, I can't handle being forced to use it a certain way and maybe it's just my mentality of open-ness but I really don't like how they do things. Well, I did. But then some of the main things I prefer about the phone simply aren't as good on the Android no matter what I did with it. I still have a couple since they're great phones, but I'm finding myself sticking to the Z30 as my main device lately.
Switch to android, i was doing all this nonsense on an iPhone when i realised how easy it was to do out of the box on android , i dropped the iPhone. I'll see what other custom roms come out in the future and I'm always willing to give it a go then.
So I hope you and your fellow co workers live out your work lives shoving shit. Because that's the only thing you guys can actually do. Eloquent. I'll let you represent yourself on this one.
How did you guys screw up such a sure thing? Lots of small decisions that lead to bigger things. Taking too long to turn stuff around, and arrogance of some people that insisted that things happen in a certain way.
I would argue that it was a "sure thing" though. The market is constantly changing and you have to keep up with it. BlackBerry simply didn't at the time.
Would you say that having all messages going through blackberry servers was ultimately what limited growth of the company? Better yet, mesh network the devices together, add a security layer, and you have a battlefield communications net. Link to I don't think the NOC was what limited the growth of the company. I think it was a few factors but I don't think the data path was part of that. It was the user experience. When you look at older BlackBerry phones... Compare the 9900 (which was arguably the best BlackBerry running 7.1 software) vs the iPhone or Androids out at the time... The competition has almost every aspect of what people wanted done better. To answer your question - no. I don't think the data path held the company back from growth.
was it simply that anyone could potentially copy it? Put on a keyboard, a display good enough to do a short message, and some protocol that can move text. BANG! Cheap knockoff blackberry. The only advantage that BlackBerry had was the keyboard and security, but then companies started to offer Bring-your-own-device policies and then suddenly BlackBerry was losing marketshare.
I work for a Canadian company that just took away my Blackberry and replaced it with the Good for Enterprise App. I want my old blackberry back! I can't say I blame you! What are you using now that has Good on it? Did you know that Good was actually created by a bunch of ex-BlackBerry employees or so the rumor goes?
I'm using it on a Nexus 5. Its a decent app I guess just takes so long to sync and its such a pain when it gets locked out. Didn't know that's who developed it, shame Blackberry had to let go of so much talent. Totally agreed. I wish that there was more talent kept, but ultimately they need to do what they need to survive. The Nexus 5 is a good device though. I know what you mean about the long syncing time... Native is usually the way to go.
What do you think of the new Blackberry CEO John Chen? Well, he's been nothing but awesome so far from what I can tell. He's very much a straight-shooter, very transparent and seems to be more about making things happen.
We had the opportunity to have a company town-hall where people asked him some pretty brutal questions, and he was incredibly direct. Not that Thorsten wasn't, but IMO, there was a lot of corporate dodging. John doesn't seem to do that, and I liked that.
Really sad to see a company like it go down the drain. When did Blackberry start to know "there is no coming back"? I can't speak on behalf of the company here, but I know for me it was around March or April when the Q10 was coming out, and we had piles of Z10s all over the place. The media certainly didn't help put us into a good light with stories being made up to make it look even worse. That said, I don't think it's beyond hope. Maybe I'm too optimistic? I think going back to the roots of what made them successful in the first place is what's really necessary here.
How's the new job search going? Great - thanks. I've got something lined up and I'm pretty pleased about it.
I just bought a Z10 with a coupon ($200 off). How screwed am I for the next, say, year or 2? I would say you're pretty safe for the most part.
Apple has this thing where you have to get the latest and greatest thing every 6 months or so. If you get a year out of your phone, you're doing well.
BlackBerry is a little different, where there's a lot more devices to choose from. I think Thorsten mentioned that they're aiming for 4 devices every year. I don't know if this is still the case or not currently however.
Backwards compatiblity was a big thing though, so I would say you should be just fine for the next couple of years, or until you have a surplus of cash just begging to spent on the next latest/greatest device.
Thanks. I've had BB before but after the shitstorm I have been away. I hope my experience is good enough. Yeah, it's a whole different situation now. The part that people keep forgetting is that BlackBerry absolutely must be at its best. If it's not, it'll fail, period.
This means that you're going to see the best of best devices from BlackBerry coming out. The Z30 is a good example, but I suspect it'll only get better as long as they can wait out the storm. (Moderate pun intended)
How many colleagues (or yourself) prefer the Android or iOs platform? Does everyone in your company genuinely prefer Blackberry over other platforms? Are you allowed to own non-blackberry phones for your personal use outside of working hours, or are you required by employment contract to only use Blackberry? That's a hard question to answer. Generally speaking, most of the employees that I saw had their BlackBerry as the primary work device which doubled as their personal. Some more tech-oriented people would use Android, and very few had iPhone unless they were heavily into the Apple world anyway. (Video editing/Photo editing, and the like)
Myself, I've had all of the major ones except Windows phone. I personally can't stand Apple. I have a soft spot in my heart for Android and have a few Androids kicking around. My Z30 is still my primary device though and I find myself using the Androids less and less.
You're definitely allowed to own non-BlackBerry devices for personal use. The only time it was really shunned is when you're in front of customers for any reason. Unofficial company policy is that you use BlackBerry in all cases there, which makes sense.
There was no requirement though to use only BlackBerry however. It would actually make more sense for people to be using lots of devices, BlackBerry and competition otherwise. I think it's better to know what the competition is doing well so you can know where you fall behind.
Did you have a moment when you thought "Wow, we've blown it, and there's no coming back", or have you tried to maintain an optimistic viewpoint? It depends on the day for me. There were times when a news article would come out, quarterly reports, or whatever the news is at the time and my heart would just sink. I did my best to remain optimistic though. Despite some of the shortcomings of Thorsten (more about the crew he chose IMO) I think he generally did a good job. There's a lot that happened internally which involved getting decisions made more quickly, getting processes streamlined and such that helped BlackBerry turn out a bunch of great products in a short time. (Z10, Q10, Q5, Z30 and BlackBerry 10 will only be 1 year old in January)
Despite being out of the company now, I really like what John Chen has been saying and actually doing so far. I'm more optimistic now than I was when I was still working for them, but it's hard when you have to answer to all of your friends and family who can be BlackBerry haters and constantly poking in your direction. "Saw the stock dropped again. When is BlackBerry just going to kick the bucket?" -- Said by my own uncle at a family gathering.
That's hard sometimes.
As someone working in the tech field in Canada, it would be devastating to lose BlackBerry. Without BlackBerry we would simply be just another dirty resource exporting country and bleeding intellect to greener pastures south of the boarder. Also, I'm really enjoying the 1 free premium app per day for December. Do you know who is footing the bill for this promotion? I can only assume that our Marketing is footing the bill, but I couldn't honestly say. I know some developers will offer a paid-to-free app in exchange for promotion (Allows them to advertise their other products) but I don't know.
I've always wondered this and maybe you could answer; why Alicia Keys as a Creative Director? Was it just for publicity? Well, that's a good question. Most of the folks at BlackBerry I think weren't entirely sure either... or that's the impression I got. I hear she did some work to get people using the Z10 in artistic circles, trying to get it out in the public. She could have been pretty critical for deploying the device but honestly I couldn't tell you.
I have a suspicion that her contract is up in January of next year though, so there is that.
When you worked at Blackberry, did you "eat your own dogfood"? If not, why not? And, what about your spouse/partner? What do you mean? Like did we use our own products?
Yep. Well then yes. My spouse wasn't into cell phones and the like at all, but when we got together, being the tech-type, I gave her one of my old Androids. She liked it, but then I was able to get her a Z10 and she absolutely loves it.
For myself, I have a few devices including the Google Nexus 5, HTC One, Z10, Z30 and a bunch of older BlackBerry's. My main is actually the Z30 after much switching back and forth. I still use the HTC for games occasionally but the main phone is the Z30.
Hello! In your opinion what is the best phone out there? Well, that's subjective. If you're looking for the largest screen for media consumption, then the Note 2 might be what you want. If you want the best typing experience, it could be a toss up between the BlackBerry keyboard (Physical) or even the virtual keyboard. Swiftkey is really good though, and so is Fleksy.
What I'm getting at though is that there is no 'best' phone for everyone. My favorites right now are the Galaxy S4, HTC One, Z30 and the Xperia series has always caught my eye. I really like the Nexus 5 though, so it's a tough call. I'd say it depends on what you want it for.
The S4 is a little to expensive for me. I was thinking about BQ Aquaris. BQ is relatively unknown but i have one of their tablets and its really great for its price. I haven't heard of it, but after looking it up, it seems to be a pretty slick device. I'm not a fan of the 1gb of ram, and 1.2ghz processor, but the expandable SD Card memory is nice.
I love my Z10. In fact, I think the Blackberry10 user experience is better than iOS and Android. I think the marketing was all wrong. I didn't see one commercial showing why different/better is okay. In fact, I didn't see one commercial with someone even holding a blackberry 10 phone. I would have invested more in the "fun education" of people through those commercials, and plastered them everywhere. 30 seconds is enough time to showcase 2 major features. A lot of the really awesome features that kept the phone separated from the competition was left out of the commercials so I would have brought those to the table as well. (Android sideloading is one example, True multitasking is another.) Finally, I wouldn't have stopped advertising what's new. I'd do the Apple marketing ploy where instead of comparing it to what's out there, I'd compare it to what the old BlackBerry's were. The brand is/was damaged, so I'd want people to know that this isn't the same BlackBerry that people still seem to think it is.
My question: what would you have done differently marketing wise? Marketing wise?
Thank you for doing this. I look forward to using a Z30 in the future. Would you ever apply to work at BB again if you could? I think so. There's a lot of things that the company did really well for some of its employees, and it was honestly a very enjoyable place to work right up until the end. I might have had a biased experience, but compared to other places I've worked, it definitely had some perks.
I miss our Ice-cream Fridays though. (Every Friday during the summer, they would provide us with Ice Cream of various types. This got cut from every Friday in the summer, to 3 or 4 times in the summer, to not at all)
We're all going to Olive Garden, what'll you have? Olive Garden is excellent!
Their breadsticks are killer... So I'll start with the salad, breadsticks. Then, probably something fish-like. Maybe the grilled salmon?
Your best advice to someone looking to start work from the trenches? What can they do to get, you know, promoted? Work smart. Be positive/enthusiastic. Be assertive, stand up for yourself but don't be a jerk about it.
And sexual favors. Those always help.
Was there still Playbook development at the time of you leaving? Nope - Sadly I was one of the many who wanted to see BB10 on the PlayBook. There was some major concerns about the 1gb of ram on the devices. It's not that BB10 couldn't get running, it's just that there was a lot of investment needed for the differing screen resolution, and getting everything running on 1gb of ram... While it could be done was very unlikely. It would need a LOT of time and manpower to pull it off, and it would be a poor experience compared to the production Z10's which had more ram, faster processor, and so on.
It still only has 1gb of ram, but has a faster processor. (Upgraded to the 1.5ghz processor) Yeah, nuking the runtime would make it feasible without much work, but it'd be useless for many. The number of natives is simply too low for it to be a useful move. :/ The developers once told me though that there's so much Cascades integration between all of those elements that the entire back end would have basically needed to be rebuilt. Not being a programmer, I only understood some of their words, but it wouldn't be an easy task regardless.
Aye, even if only portions of BB10 were to be backported to PBOS, the experience would increase immensely. I personally was pushing for the Browser, Keyboard and BBM/Hub. If even the PlayBook could have supported JUST those aspects of BB10, the PlayBook might have had a fighting chance.
Can you give any insight to BB10's obsolescence cycle? How long do you estimate before next year's gimmick breaks this years specs? Good question. I think it comes down to what the market is looking for initially, but then you have to think that BlackBerry is also in a new ballgame too when talking about the current market. The PlayBook only somewhat recently has stopped being supported AFAIK. This means based on the current cycle, you should expect to get about 2-3 years out of your current hardware.
That said, when new versions of software come out, the plan from what I've seen is to keep it as backwards compatible as possible (Excluding the PlayBook) but of course, this could change. This is all speculation but I couldn't entirely say. If I guessed, I'd say that the Z10 will have support probably until early 2015, but this isn't based on any tangible information I've come across. It very well may be supported even longer.
What were the general thoughts and feelings within the company regarding the promotion of Heins as CEO a few years ago? How has that changed since the less than stellar launch of the new BB OS? Well, Heinz did a lot good internally surrounding processes, getting things moving more quickly, putting accountability on the people that needed to make decisions to get things done.
The less than stellar launch I mostly hold Marketing as the blunder there.
Thanks for your response. I had high hopes for the company after hearing of Heins' promotion and reading his first interview with zcrackberry. No problem. My hopes for the future is that Chen will identify the execution failures, continue to move the company to profitability and then fix what's broken. He seems to be doing that so far but only hindsight will let us know after it's all said and done.
Knowing what you know about the company, would you ever invest in the stock now or if it became much cheaper? This is a good question. I'm not very stock savvy, otherwise I would have invested in Bitcoins.
That said, I think I might invest if I had some spare cash kicking around, but only after the company stabilizes more. John Chen just came in, he's doing a lot to make sure he's transparent but there's a lot of moving pieces I'm not sure about yet. I'd want to have a more solid foundation behind what's happening before proceeding with anything... So regardless of price, I'd want to see the company returning to profitability or at least show how it plans to.
Since blackberry and windows phone are fighting for the third spot, my question to you is, what do you think of the Windows Phone? (windows phone 8) compared to bb10, ios7, Android I've honestly had a whole 5 minutes with a Windows Phone... So it really wouldn't be fair for me to try and even pretend I know what I'm talking about. The only thing I can say is I know Windows Phone has the same lack of applications that we do, but I couldn't say which parts are betteworse.
I would love to get my hands on one for a few weeks for testing though!
If you were CEO, what would be your next step for BlackBerry? Next step? When I left, I liked the direction that was being taken, so I think I would push that more.
Get the company back to profitability and earn the trust of the shareholders that we're doing the right things.
FIX MARKETING. (Fix the Brand. People need to know this isn't the same BlackBerry that they're thinking of when people say the name)
I'm not a CEO without all the business degrees, but that's the general overall strategy I'd try and start with.
Do you think that if Blackberry revamps the whole device including the OS, what platform would be best? Funny enough, that's what BB10 was, was a complete revamp of the devices and the OS.
The OS is still in its adolescence right now. It's a very hard comparison to make when you consider that the iOS and Android OS's have been around for 7 or 8 years. (Or longer)
And best is subjective, like I mentioned before. Hard to say.
Do you know if blackberry has or will bring out (hope it can be answered) a rugged phone? full keyboard, military spec case? A otterbox only goes so far sadly for being rugged. I remember years ago, Sprint requested a very rugged Curve, and we made one for them. I know I prefer Otterbox as well, but like you said it only goes so far.
About Military spec... I would love to see how they would do that. You should be able to submerge it in water, run over it with a tank and drop it from the ISS and it survives.
I don't know that there are any plans, but I know the carriers have a lot of pull when it comes to what they want. (Verizon wanted the Z30 to have a wireless charging battery, so they got one)
Did you come from Keane? Sorry, No I didn't.
Do you think the Z30 should have debuted first instead of the Z10? Nope. The 5" screen market isn't as large as the general touchscreen market. Also, 10.2 is excellent for the Z30. The Q10 I think should have launched at the same time as the Z10. (Or the Q10 first)
Do you have a large collection of rubik's cubes? Huh? No. I think I solved one once by taking the stickers off. Why do you ask?
I don't have a question. I just hope Blackberry survives. I really do like my Q10 for what I use it for (lots of emailing/texting for work), and I'm glad the company hasn't abandoned physical keyboards, as a (small) percentage of us really prefer them. Thanks. Me too... I have no ill will towards the company. It gave me lots of experiences and such, but more than anything I love where the company was headed with the new updates. I'm really excited to see what they come up with in the future. I don't think it'll go anywhere, but it'll just be more like the smaller company it was back in 2005-2007 when it was starting to really peak.
Who thought of the blackberry storm. I don't know the individual project team that thought it up, but MANY people weren't happy with it internally... and we were forced to release it before it was ready.
The Storm 2 should have been the Z10, but we couldn't have known then either.
I paid my Z10 ~170$, and for this money, it's an awesome phone. The mistake Blackberry made IMO was to price his phone way too expensive at first. Thanks. This was a huge sentiment of many internal folks as well, especially when the Z30 came out. More powerful devices for almost 1/2 the price... We weren't too happy and thought it should have been almost $100 cheaper to start.
That said, someone higher up had done far more research and considered more things that myself and I'm sure there was a reason it was priced the way it did, even if I didn't agree.
When Blackberry finally goes tits up, what is going to happen to all of the Blackberry users who rely on BB systems to run their devices? Assuming you're correct that BlackBerry goes bankrupt and they shut down the NOC, there's a few things.
1 - Older BlackBerry devices (Java-based OS) would become basically useless. They mostly require BlackBerry Internet Service to function which means providing service books to tell the device where to look for email, internet, social media, provisioning of services, and such.
2 - BlackBerry Enterprise Servers (running 5.0.x and earlier) would also become mostly useless. They could still poll the mail servers for new mail, but they maintain a SRP connection to the NOC which means they would have no connectivity to the internet for secured communications to the devices.
2a - BlackBerry Enterprise Servers (running 6.2 and above) would be less impacted but their ability to activate devices in some cases would be completely stopped. They take a different path for data so secure traffic would stop, but there are still other possible ways to get the devices to communicate. Stuff that was working before would somewhat continue working but generally bad things would happen and data would stop flowing for a lot of users. (Anyone not on WiFi generally but there are exceptions to this)
3 - PlayBooks would be largely unaffected, except any BES 10 or BDS 6.2 or earlier servers wouldn't have connectivity. They might still get email depending on how the admin set up the environment. Also the BlackBerry World store, music store and video store would stop working.
4 - BB10 devices would be more impacted. BBM would stop working. Anything on the work partition/corporate side would mostly stop functioning unless the admin had VPN profiles configured and pushed out to the devices in advance. Email would likely still work, but that depends on a few different things. Adding new email accounts would all have to be done manually because there's a discovery service that keeps server settings so the phones don't need to have a local database of that information. BlackBerry world would stop working, so you'd have to sideload any and all applications. Any services that were specific to the NOC (Secure communications between servers and devices, BBM, BlackBerry World, and related) would simply stop.
5 - Carriers would have a sort of crisis situation on their hands; There are servers that are running and monitoring the connection between the carriers and the NOC as well. As soon as the bandwidth stopped, the carriers would be wondering why all data just stopped flowing and alarms would be ringing all over the place.
I can't see that happening though... Not that BlackBerry could cease to exist, but that the NOC gets shut down. There would be other companies that would be happy to buy the NOC to keep the services running, contractual agreements with governments, and that sort of thing.
Thank you for the excellent answers. No problem.
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